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I hate it. Every year I would curse my ancestors because they couldn't wait 5 minutes for the bread to rise.

I warn every person that is running away from war or slavery - prepare your food well!! Don't create some future stupid obligatory traditions for your offspring!!

As someone who educated himself as a Jew in adulthood, the beauty of matza is its metaphoric representation of humility. Leavening represents ego rising and avoiding it for the 8 days of passover is a physical reminder of humility.

Prior to passover, we do a careful search of our household to find and remove leavened bread, even small bits. This is analogous to soul-searching for things within us where ego dominates and gets in the way of the kind of people we want to be. The symbolism of finding and taking the effort to remove these traces (or large chunks) of ego is powerful, and passover is a great periodic reminder to take this kind of inner inventory.

And then on the physical level, and still related to ego, I think there's a lot of little "addictions" that we have as people. "I can't live w/o a muffin in the morning" or whatever is pretty benign as far as addictions go, but even the difficulty of giving that up shows how much of our behavior is ruled by little irrelevant things in the world. And then our ability to get over that and just eat matzo for 8 days proves to ourselves that we can ultimately overcome these addictions that they don't matter. A modern version of that might be "for 8 days, you can only use a feature phone, no touchscreen devices!" :)

Now that I said all of this, I have to fess up that I love the crunchiness of Matza which I for the first time tasted around age 9 when the Soviet Union was opening up and someone brought us Matza from the US. It was literally my first "taste" of religion.

EDIT: to tie it together - passover is a holiday about freedom. On the literal level, exodus from slavery. On the metaphorical level, liberation from ego-domination and unconscious subjugation to the world instead of making active choices. Your ability to chose to just eat matza for 8 days is an assertion of your freedom over that. Your ego, and the world, would rather you load up on bagels - but you are somehow finding within yourself to forego that because of higher aspiration (even if that aspiration is merely to continue traditions of your ancestors) - and that is amazing and powerful in and of itself.

I hadn't made the connection between Pesach and Yom Kippur but they share this asceticism, and the atonement of Yom Kippur echoes the humility of the Passover "cleansing of the soul" ritual. I've explicitly used the Yom Kippur fast as a tool to chip away at addictions. As a profoundly irreligious person I can still value these ceremonies for secular reasons.

Religions are a product of (cultural) evolution by natural selection. Nothing supernatural about religion ;-)

> I hate it.

I'm not Jewish and I absolutely love Matzo. It's always on sale before Passover and I usually buy quite a few boxes and eat all of them. I use them either as crackers or even crumbled into soups or borscht. I think it tastes amazing for how simple it is. This year I'll try making a layered cake!

"on sale" = "available to purchase".

But if you want to define it as "on sale" = "cheaper price" then buy it right after Passover and stock up - it will last for more than year, so you can buy a lot.

The bread they made on the way out of eygpt did not taste the same as what is made now. It was most likely still soft as opposed to the hard bread of today as the ovens they had were much lower temperature.

This doesn't sound right. Got a source for what kind of ovens they had?

This is a somewhat generally accepted theory. (I don't have sources handy, though.)

What makes modern matzah hard is the flour/water ratio. When more water is added, the bread is also softer. The issue with soft matzah is that it spoils quickly, and if you need bread for 7 days you need to make matzah during Passover.

Okay, you say, so make some matzah on Passover, right? But matzah is tricky, because if enough time passes between mixing the water and flour, it is considered leavened. (This is a religious definition, not a physical one.) Merely owning leavened bread is prohibited, so European Jews made dry matzah to prevent unfortunate slip-ups.

This custom started within the last few hundred years (again, I don't have sources, so I'm not sure about exact dates). Yemenite Jews still use soft matzah.

Edit: part of the Passover story mentions Hillel, who would wrap matzah around his Passover offering and bitter herbs. This definitely indicates soft matzah, but is much later than the Exodus itself.

a few notes:

there's a very early christian debate (I think settled at an early church council) if the bread of the eucharist (which many associate with matza) could be soft, or had to be hard like a cracker. So, either they were trying to distinguish it from matza (which doesn't seem to be the case), or there was crispy matza in the 1500-2000 year ago range.

Personally, I find soft matza to be terrible. our appreciation of food comes from both flavor and texture. Matza being just flour and water (no salt in traditional doughs), means it has terrible flavor (bread really really needs salt to taste not bad). Soft matza has no texture, while at least the crispy matza does.

so, a) I don't think crispy matza is a really a modern invention (they had analogues a long time ago) and b) there's a reason we moved en masse to crispy matza, its just more enjoyable overall.

Yes, it's correct, but it's not the oven, it's the flour and water that control it.

Basically in the past matzo was made the day it was used because it would spoil otherwise (like any bread), but making matzo came with the risk of creating leaven which was a serious prohibition on Pesach itself.

So it's better to make it in advance, before Pesach, so they switched to dry/hard matzo that can keep forever.

These days there are freezers, and some groups make small quantities of the matzo the old way, and then freeze. It's not easy to get.

Isn't it as much a problem of duration? The first piece of matzo is great. :-)

I look forward to my annual eight day matzahpizza orgy.

Is the matzo (vs other unleavened bread) actually required, or just traditional? Like, _nice_ unleavened bread is a thing.

The definition of the word Matzo is "unleavened bread", so your question is not well formed.

No one forces you into stupid traditions except you yourself.

Because religious peer pressure isn't a thing.

https://archive.ph/40WTx

The JS/Scroll capture in the original article results in lots of blank areas in the archive but I think the text is all there.

Matzah is fantastic, I wish I had more opportunities to have it. The hard, thin, crunchy matzah bread, matzah ball soup, its all great. We used to have it once a year during school lunch, probably for Passover, but I don't really remember when or why. I just remember that it was pretty delicious.

Not jewish (nor religious), I just like it. Its a good snack, pretty much tasteless to me on its own but good for various dips like hummus (mixing cultures/religions a bit) or taramasalata. Good if you want to eat something and not overload on carbs (since its very light). Lasts forever.

In Switzerland they have it most shops, from various brands.

Non-Jewish and British. Personally I really enjoy just slathering it in good butter as a snack - I'd often end up eating a box at a time this way as a growing, ravenous teenager. Not massively healthy, but definitely satiating.

Rakusens is the only brand that's easily available in most supermarkets (but I'm sure if I went to a more Jewish area than where I live they'd have a bigger variety.

If you want to have it more often, it's sold at supermarkets year-round (usually in the ethnic/foreign food area)

Unfortunately, I live in an area where rice is considered “ethnic”.

You can order it online and have it delivered.

https://www.amazon.com/matzah/s?k=matzah

Never had the soup, but wanted to. I figure that if I'm already eating soup with crackers, I might as well try soup where cracker is the main point.

I used to enjoy "how ... is made" videos on YouTube. I used to work in a dairy factory (in IT) a few decades ago, and it was amazing to see the process.

And then after watching "Rick and Morty - Plumbus: how they do it" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJk4y9NGvE) all these vids are ruined :)

A high point of satire IMO. Apparently the audio was improv and animated after the fact?

This is how machine Matzo is made. Hand made Matzo is a whole 'nother thing.

This is first thing my parents taught me to make. So when I was a kid and I was hungry I'd make myself some Matzah. Now I am too lazy, so I sometimes buy Matzo. Not quite the same, but it's okay, brings me back to childhood.

I am not Jewish, but I often wonder why my family knew this and other things seemingly from Jewish culture. One of things I couldn't get an answer for.

If you have latin american ancestry there are people known as conversos. There were other places besides Spain, in middle ages Europe where people hid their Jewish backgrounds, attended church and blended in to protect their families but some traditions persist. There may be a family secret in your background. Mazel tov!

Just curious, when you say you made it, you mean from scratch with flour & water? What's your recipe?

2 flour and 1 water, it doesn't have leavening or salt by design so you just mix it and roll it out until it's wafer thin and prick holes in it so make sure it stays flat. Then you bake it in a really hot oven.

The high temperature is great when you bake a lot in a row since it lets you work fast, but for home baking maybe an airfryer is an economical alternative.

For all those in this thread who haven't tried Matzah, I strongly encourage you to do so. Think of it not as bread, but a cracker – a platform for spreads, if you will.

What kinds of spreads?

- Butter + salt

- Butter + jam

- I guess butter + anything

- Brie cheese

I could go on. Try it y'all!

Matzah pizza!! Super convenient, you can just leave a box in your pantry and take one out whenever you need a quick and easy crust.

Matzah lasagne: use Matzah boards as the noodle layers and use veggies, cheese and sauce. Could use meat as an alternative. Need to soak them a bit first or else use a lot of sauce since the boards tend to soak up whatever moisture there is in the pan.

I'm not Jewish but my mother would buy Matzo at the store and make little peanut butter and jelly bites with them. Of course, peanuts are forbidden during Passover.

Olive oil. Just that works fine too.

But not peanut butter :)

little milk, couple eggs, some black pepper…

There are two types of Passover Matzo - machine and hand. Streit's does machine matzo, but a great number of those who have a "Passover Seder" use only hand-matzo for that.

(There is also egg matzo but that is a different category)

OT: I cannot get openAI to draw me realistic hand matzo, no matter how hard I try :(

https://archive.is/40WTx

I Wonder how much Streit paid for this ad.

I don't think this is placement. If it was, Streit would have been outbid by Manishewitz; the latter is significantly larger and has non-regional pull (I've never seen Streit's widely available outside of the NYC area).

I actually like Yehuda the best. But I grew up on Horowitz Margareten.

Streit's is found in Chicagoland area too.

Bloomberg (the company) has (or at least had) Matzah out in their "kitchens" all year round. Apparently Mike really liked it. (Combining truth and a pop culture life cereal reference)

It's not really necessary to advertise Matzo to Jews......

And there's nothing in the article that distinguishes this brand from any other.

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Old but still relevant post by pg: https://paulgraham.com/submarine.html

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